Realists always face reality. The friend of a friend of a friend of someone's uncle cousin Larry or something. And tbh amway rules and guess who doesnt rule thats right its you. Over 99% of IBO's don't make money at Amway.Hopefully you found a business with better odds than less than 1%. But not all Diamonds are on the preferred speaking list so some diamonds earn more cash than others but a diamond could earn several thousand or tens of thousands more a year by this tool income. As you've figured out its just a big game of make belief. Amway Diamonds made only $150,000 a year in 2013? What would be more fantastic would be more information. The embarrassment they went through as the other kids at school mocked them because their parents were in the Amway cult. If these two men had the blind faith that you and the millions or other sheep around the world do, wouldn't they just sign up in the same fashion you did? Add to that the demand that IBOs buy all the damn "tools," and those bigshots made a fortune.They told De Vos and Van Andel to go to hell. And think about it. And this is after quite a lot of truly hard work. Anna, my friend invited me to an E-commerce meeting with over 2,000 people. ;) *ShakingMyHead*Mitchellinspiration.wwdb.bizFeel free to e-mail me with any assumptions and doubts about being an IBO, i would be happy to shatter your falsified assumptions. From what Ive seen of Amway Diamonds they live beyond their means. You actually tell them what you want to talk to them about and show them some videos online before having them over. Sure, nice mark-up for the lipgloss. From one of ibofightbacks websitesIt's now official, Dean and Marcie Whalen in Edmonton, Alberta are now Diamonds in the World Wide Dreambuilders LOA in the Amway business.I believe it's been 6-7 years since WWDB has had a new Diamond and this is pretty awesome news. Yeah sometimes Blogger has its glitches. The nut nodded, not realizing I was mocking. Because for everything those recruits buy the Ambots get a tiny percentage. he is awake dipshit. ft. $725,000. I can see how that would cost extra but is it viable in the market place. We dont moderate comments on weekends. The only 95% I know of in Amway is that 95% of IBO's quit within 2 years. People have enough of the Amway bullshit. Just because you decide to still doesn't mean you have flown away yet action brings results. Diamonds don't make 150kthose are emeralds. These guys are telling you to sign up for MLMs while they own them. But of course it didn't. This list will cover both current and former Amway Diamonds, U.S. and foreign, and living and deceased Diamonds covering the 50+ year history of the company. You do get rewarded. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Battling with the fucking assholes in the Amway upline who have brainwashed our husbands into misplaced love and worship at the Amway upline instead of at our families. If you know of a Diamond or past Diamond not listed, please . Thank you for clarifying misconceptions about a legit business like Amway. . Read it and try to get your ambot friend to read it too though he'll come up with all kinds of excuses. so now product is actually moving and no real income is generated You get no PV for signing someone up and selling them a startup kit. LOL! Amway Christians. Now there's a topic for the day. IBOs must be in compliance at all times with the Amway IBO Compensation Plan, Quality Assurance Standards and the IBO Rules of Conduct to keep their invitation to Amway incentive trips. Products are wonderful with high quality. L.O.L. And they will rip you off with the books, tapes and functions. And because you're a dumb fuck Amway Ambot I have to spell it out for you. Yup to the whiteboard and drawing circles on it. Where else would you get that working 4 hours a week?recessions happen and effect more than just amway. I have yet to have someone tell me that they were involved in this great transportation company and then have it turn out to be a Toyota salesman trying get me to buy a car. That's why there is a 90 day money back guarantee so you can't be out anything. And all of us love the freedom we have to spend with our family and all the time and money we have now that the Amway cult is no longer sucking us dry emotionally and financially. The idea was to reach a level where the scam would provide such a high salary that you don't need anything else and can have all the time in the world with massive money pouring in. (later shortened to Amway) so they could expand the product line to include regular household items. Don was a High School science teacher and basketball coach. Like your Amway pipe dream?Haters always hate? Hilarious.You're still angry about failing in Amway? Better get used to spelling with Chinese phonetics , Your email address will not be published. Amway Diamonds- How To Hit The Rank. That's good news for the owners of Amway but how does that affect their lowly paid commissioned salespeople.Ambots also show up here claiming that Amway has made more millionaires than Microsoft or Google of wherever but so far no one's shown up with a list of the millionaires for comparison. Robert FitzPatrick again explains why 'MLM/Direct Selling' is a Big Lie. Don't forget the tool scam money. Some people think scammers are positive people, others not so much. The meeting was held in his garage, white board in the front, markers and circles, 6 people etc etc. Do your research amigosForbes.com #25 on the top 100 listNet-work marketing is a legitimate businessSears, best buy, Apple, Barnes and Nobles, Office Depot, Disney, and a total of 80 others are all partners with this so call scamwayIf Amway is a scam then call the feds because this is the longest scam in the history of the U.S54 years to be exactI suggest you read books on the industry (Network Marketing) which has 52 billion dollars in revenue each yearRobert Kiyosaki wrote a book "The business for the 21st Century" also "School of Business"Other books to get information on the industry "The New Professionals"Donald Trump and Warren Buffet both have NETWORK MARKETING COMPANIES and they have BILLIONS of reasons as to why I stop and listen to them. Thanks! Flush that job! And there are hundreds of new platinums each year. I really just stumbled upon this blog but I took time out of my day to make a post. $66,000,000,000 for 4,000 diamonds? Shocking! look at any person with any significant success and you'll always here stories of people that Todd then to quit, but the common denominator with all successful people they ignored them and kept going. We were actively involved in the business for years and were greatly blessed in the relationships we have and the things we learned from our upline and all of the Diamonds and above from the seminars we chose to go to. This blog doesn't have many comments? But I researched this one a lot, and it seems very solid. i don't know what to do i am completely outta mymind i am just crying all day long>>>>>>>>>>if i don't gethim/her back i will end my lifePLESAE save your strenght you don't have to commit suicide to get your exit's will not even bring him but rather makes you a bigfool..now you have mother of the world sunlightdaugther of jai mata durga,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT ever that you sunlightspell@gmail.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my husband broken up our marriage he wrote divorce and we divorced 2and 4months ago just last week i contacted sunlightbecause everyday i dream of him as i love so him much lastweek ago i contacted sunlight 3days of it my husband came back after the casting of the charms has been and we settled againright now we are living together>>>>>>>>>>>pls worry not yourself because she is her to help you in what so ever that you need.thanks to you mother of the world glory be unto your name womanof powers'''''''''''i love you. So if you go by Amway ambot logic if Im broke then so are Amway Diamonds. Worth also noting that all of Alticors non-Amway related revenues are based in the United States, and media and industry reports regularly state that more than 90% of Alticors revenue comes from outside of the US, so Amway revenue is that revenue plus Amway US revenue, which has been reported at around the $860 million mark leaving less than $200 million for non-Amway Alticor revenue, consistent with the earlier reports. Word on the street is in a year and with their current business they will be founders Diamonds next year this time. But, perhaps Theo is still around to clarify his math. To warn everyone what people in Amway are really like. Like you said big red flags.Look further up on the right side of this page under Amway related links. However, if he were to claim that he owned the Apple stock for more that one month, he's saying that he purchased 1,000 shares of a stock whose value ranged between $300 and $600 per share over the three years that he's been in business. 68 cents on every dollar is paid back to distributors. One reasn why the products are so expensive, is because there was a confrontation between the Devos/van Andels and the bigwig distributirs making money off the tools, and the latter threatened to leave and take their organizations with them, so the company had to accept that, and they had to raise their prices to offset it. January 6, 2012: Updated information on Carole Holiday here. You might love the fucking assholes in your Amway upline so much that you'd be happy to suck dick and kiss ass. What if someone valued being around generally positive people?I have met 5 diamonds and I feel a peace I don't see from any employees.GOD BLESSps. MLM: There ain't no light at the end of the tunnel! And with Amway even admitting that 99% of people who get into it don't make money that pretty much confirms the whole pyramid structure.You can make up all the stuff you want, but you can't deny the faultiness of the MATH of Amway, no matter how many unrealistic circles you draw. More importantly, those mistakes don't define you. Anna, you are far better off than the average American. They can't live an Amway Diamond millionaire lifestyle on only Amway income. They don't disclose all the hidden costs to you. Glad you're enjoying the blog. www.bet.com. It doesn't have to its a private company selling top quality items and paying people to recommend them. www.bet.com. I think the 150 k is a gross figure. The first thing you should know is that to become a Diamond like all the other Amway Diamonds you need to have 6 platinum legs. I join this buisness 1 month ago. At least at Walmart and the other stores you can buy a single protein bar without buying a box of them. They were going to continue, and if Amway didn't like it Amway could fuck off. LOL! I've even heard IBOs discuss BILLIONAIREs they've met. I thought they were earning so much from this scam that they wouldn't need it. Amway Ambots love to say negative no matter how much they preach about never saying negative. Kyle - Amway ambots judge everybody who is not in Amway so this is our little spot on the web where we can just people in Amway. 150k is not a bad income. Calling it an e-commerce meeting is probably the oldest trick out there. Amway is vastly different.. THis was before the internet mind you. As you pointed out, if the Ambot can't figure out the math no matter how many circles are drawn, all they can do is make stuff up and spread their lies everywhere they can think of. They were probably shocked as well. I asked him a few questions about his new gig but he wouldn't tell me the entire picture. I keep getting fucking Amway assholes showing up here and leaving comments that Im broke even though Im very careful with my money. Its great to know that a lot of diamonds are qualifying each year. Amway is all about fake it till you make it. I showed up an hour late and I was shocked to find out that my friend sucked me into an Amway meeting like a blind vortex. A couple years have passed since then and my business has outgrown their "dream" business ten fold and they are still slaving away, loosing friends, creating enemies and trying to recruit people who want to "live the dream." July 29, 2008. Thank to your rude comments id rather be apart of Amway, atleast they have respect, values and know how to talk to others like grown, mature people.Thank you for allowing me to see how being someone like you would be the worst decison of my life.Amway here I come! This is gross. (a) no, nothing like 1500000, you dont understand correctly (b) yes its hard work, if you can suggest a job or other casual business that allows you to bring in around $50000/yr in profit, part-time, within a coule of years, while simultaneously creating an income producing asset, then please share. 1500000 if i understand correctly. No skin off my ass if you choose to believe a bunch of scamming lying Amway assholes or believe those who've lost money thanks to this scam. There is a link to a free ebook called Merchants of Deception. Flexible Payment Options. It's a common theme across many Amway Motivational Organizations (AMO). In addition diamonds are unable to requalify so their income crumbles.its just impossible to keep 6 legs going. The Top 27 Amway Diamond Success Stories Now that we've got that out of the way, here are my Amway Diamond Success Stories # 27: Robert and Lois Stonelake The Stonelake's helped put Amway on the map. In fact fact, I think they probably earned no more than $30,000 then. Hi anna. That they're not alone in the way they're feeling because Amway destroyed their family. Sending condolences and praying for their families. I did my own research and i did find that yes some "diamonds" go broke by spending money that isnt there. Guess which one is easier for us to do?9. During Major Functions, Diamonds speak of having lifetime, will-able, residual income through the !That's one hell of night owl to be fired up from.Back in July I posted on this topic, 2 comments up. We are worth 200% more than we think we are! Anonymous - your way is the honest way. And the McDonalds franchise owner makes their money on selling lots of product. Keeps Ambots away! But sadly this is the story of 99% of the IBOs. !If you want unbiased look at the Dateline videos done by real reporters interviewing past and current Amway employees. Please be informed, log in from another account was performed on the website in another tab or device. It is a complete fraud. Amway isnt a scam. Gokaiger cast member M.A.O. It may only be shared or re-used under licence. You never tell an Amway Ambot your dreams because they'll use it as a weapon against you at a later date like when you're planning to quit. as in once a "diamond," always a? we call it "the prosperity Gospel" and that is apart from an insult to Christ, an outright misrepresentation . I have yet to see a passage in the Bible which talks about how Jesus wants to bless you with material possessions beyond your wildest dreams if only you have enough faith. "This cheap thing wouldnt be worth more than $1, probably less if bought in bulk," I told myself. Not being able to go to other kids birthday parties because their parents "counselled with upline" about buying the birthday kid a present and were told no, use that money to buy more shitty overpriced Amway products instead. I remember looking at the tapes, which cost $5-6. His house, to make an understatement, was huge. The Financial Jonestown: My experience with the Amway Motivational Organization (AMO) URAssociation. No praying required just think about it no one knows anyone here but we all know people who enjoy they're journey and we all know people that hate they're journey 95% percent of people are seeking solutions 5 percent are excited to join a ranting bunch. I have an excellent credit rating but those fucking Amway assholes that read my blog accuse me of being broke. Anna, your blog ROCKS!!! It is a nice income for most people. Try again later. (Thanks to Dr.Jayashree rath).have a great life.thanks. Any one with and decency would look at this and see that these people commenting are either made up or are really not good people. If your career pays you 100k per year and you make 50k a year in amway, are you going to be complaining? The beachfront island resort offers vast ocean views and lively pools and lagoons in a setting for unforgettable adventure. So i just dont see why anyone would bother. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding go fuck yourselves!6. Often, the perception that Amway diamond is wealthy is based on the income they earned in the year they qualified first. Of course, Diamonds can have international legs, Diamonds do overlap, and Diamonds have Platinum legs that are bigger than 7500PV, so that figure likely has no little resemblance to reality. Most ambots start to think about quitting in 6 months when they're not making money. Now $150,000 sounds like a lot of money to young people or to those with lower wage types of jobs, or those who are just starting out in their careers. And while you're sucking his dick off you better get more instructions on how not to say negative. You can't be polite because Ambots won't back off. You do all the work, make a few pennies commission on a sale, and everyone in your upline also makes commission off your hard work. I bet those Diamonds are gonna be hauling coal in hell and then we'll see how positive they are then! Why don't you show them the Amway printed literature you have to show all prospects. Dang, sounds like a sure thing to me.Cassette Tape. See you're too nice. When you are Teamed up with the right team that actually cares about you, and builds your business because when you succeed then they succeed. Everything crumbles. Look at the small print where it shows how much Amway Diamonds make each year. Because all those expenses I listed above, if you screw up and don't buy them the assholes in the Amway upline will give you a shit kicking and mock you at Amway meetings. And when I say tiny, I mean spending hundreds in the Amway "dream" and getting small $10 checks back from Amway. As reported on this site several weeks ago, UK & ROI Amway Diamonds affiliated with IBS, Jerry & Mandy Scriven, Pat & Greta Gregory, and Dave Butler had not been offered renewed contracts with the "new" Amway.Amway itself confirmed this with a posting on the Amway media blog entitled IBS Unplugged.. Jerry and Mandy Scriven have now responded with a well written and well supported letter on . That's the place Ambots use to stash all the overpriced Amway shit they're stockpiling. You got to spend $30 to buy a box of them. Omg anna you foreal need to get a life. They can connect you with successful people who can help explain how to build the business. And i know it costed him like 10 bucks for it haha..Also, they did give me a protein bar sample which they said costs 3$ per bar. That 150k for diamonds you see is actually what's required by the federal trade comission. He's not totally sold on it either. I've had many children of Amway Ambots leave comments here about how Amway destroyed their family. Everyone else keeps working the scam. Amway is all about selling the hope. Sometimes it may be a new husband or wife. Talk it over with this person. I hate them more than I ever hated anyone in my entire life for what they did to her. Can't say Amway and honest in the same sentence can you without laughing! And expectations are more realistic. Why to help middleman (Retailer-Whole Sellers-Dealers & Ad people) to be RICH? Otherwise no one would be making money because nobody who's not an Ambot wants to buy Amway product. urgent..i want my ex lover back he is leavingme not calling or texting, he is not even responding to meanymore. WWDB has a ton of motivational resources that can help get you to the next level of your MLM business. Being in the Amway cult is all about twisting the bible to suit the Amway cult leader's purposes. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. I was in Amway back in 96 to 99. I guess haters will always hate. Price matching . The company was founded in 1959 by Jay Van Andel and Richard DeVos and is based in Ada, Michigan. take steps now to have a golden retirement later. This page was last modified on 12 January 2016, at 16:29. You and I probably have different definitions of what we consider positive people. (And, as ibofightback mentioned, there is overlap. Numbers do not lie. About Amway. Of course not because people in Amway don't believe anything unless someone else in Amway says it whether or not it's true, Amway ambots parrot the Amspeak from these assholes.I've done enough research minimal as it may be that I have a good idea what will happen to a person if they jump onto the subway lines that I don't have to experience it firsthand and can draw on someone else's experience that they got themself electrocuted to death. Absolutely correct! Who is now amway diamon and who is babesor. I'm guessing your involvement in this "opportunity" has been no longer than 2 years. Anonymous - that's what Amway is all about. I dont regret the couple grand I spent over three years on functions, meetings and tapes. You'll notice on every page of Amway's books they're forced to print "the average monthly earnings in 2012 was $84". Is it the weekend? It lights up and stuff.. and has a mirror on it. Hi Anonymous. You got it Sprigsleg. Thats over 99% failure rate according to Amway what kind of business opportunity is that. Theres lots of different strategies N Commandeur. Seeing the greedy diamonds giving their bullshit speeches, I wanted to vomit. @AnonymousJuly 9, 2013 at 10:40 AMFirst you have established that you are a ridiculous, ignorant hypocrite, not duplicating your upline nor following their instructions that you should not visit so called "negative" websites. I am showing the people that are actually wondering if half the stuff you say is true or not some evidence of who we actuall work with. They had a proposal to make to me and I agreed to meet them for coffee. Here are the reasons Amway Ambots say they don't have retirement savings: 1. The thing is Ambots are leaving Amway and taking their downline with them. They attend the first Bahama Rama with 13 Distributorships in celebration. If you qualify for Diamond Select, you will be treated to an extended trip with exclusive activities and VIP pampering, plus more time to connect, collaborate and relax with fellow business leaders. Its about the only thing taught at Scamway meetings. MLM I general is a malignant metastatic cancer on peoples' lives. Even if we are talking 4,000 diamondships (which many diamondships have two diamonds in it), that would be each diamondship running $16.5 million in volume annually. He tried to get me to join a couple of months back to which I said no. They buy mansions a fleet of sports cars and fly first class to exotic destinations multiple trips a year and supposedly they pay cash for all of this. These MLM scams are all the same.Amway's got no motivation to get rid of the tool scam. That lifestyle just aint possible on 150k without going into some serious debt. I'm going to repost your comments on an upcoming post because this is an older post and some people might miss what you have to say. Nobody is coming into any of Theo's four McDonalds franchises to buy a dream (or motivational CD about how you too can own a McDonalds). Anna because of your stupid BLOG people came to know who you are. Perhaps someone has a link to Amway's literature showing this new amount that diamonds earn yearly. thanks for stopping by. Then there were the books, all of which were priced at what they'd cost in a bookshop. The other 5% will be broke losers forever except for a tiny percentage who are the best liars and the best scammers and have no morals and conscience and they will make some money at Scamway. Why? . What if staying where I am WILL fulfill my dreams? (See the AUS "Directly Speaking" and "Tools Scam" articles for . Kiyosaki was homeless for a while fighting for a dream. The company simply doesn't make that kind of margin on its products nor is there that much product being distributed. A Q-12 platinum (lets assume 10K PV) runs at minimum $360K annually. All of us are broke who have incomes around 150k. Or you can tell them you're getting together with some people who are producing gay porno movies and looking for investors and ask them if they'd like to join you and invest too. The Mona Vie Black Diamond apparently gave the impression that they had left Amway due to anger at Amway's request to sign the declaration. You're just a low life commissioned salesperson for this scam outfit. Patience.2. I hate all of them. does this not also include "diamonds"? But yeah its a nice mark up if you can brainwash Ambots to buy it ! How about the claim of 1,000 Apple shares. They're only out to bring misery to your life. They joined Amway in 1973 and went Diamond in 1979. A diamond pin is finally available. I feel your pain and sorry you went through all this while your parents devoted their lives to Amway the cult of greed. Isn't there someone in your Amway upline who wants you to suck his dick off so go run off and find him cocksucker! Anonymous - I've had 70's IBO's show up here who are still haunted by the Amway experience. Usually they're screeching this stuff everywhere they can!And why aren't you already retired? An example is you we hate you cause your a hater and you are not passionate or have hope you dont have a life and you coulf go to hell and rott their. Ha ha ha ha haha ha ha!!!!! Many entire coutries went bankrupt due to economic recession. Anonymous - you agree with Theo the lying little Amway ambot who shows up here pretending to be an executive diamond? Neither are Emeralds, Platinums or any IBO who LOVES Amway and LOVES their upline. Because even they know it won't add up. Less than $5 for a good name brand at the drugstore. You may e-mail the information directly to ibofightback. Made up? She is great and of course you and I both no Amway is not. Amway wouldn't print it out if it wasn't true, would they? These days Amway Ambots easily spend a grand a month on this scam. Anna. And wouldn't you like to be your own boss and blah blah blah.Stuff that would make sense if it was a legitimate business opportunity and not that you're paying a company big bucks to be a lowly paid commissioned salesperson.Then the Ambot pulled out a napkin and drew circles on it and said you find 6 people and they find 6 people and so on and then you'll all be rich.That book you read, without commenting on its contents is a huge seller for Amway. Your story is starting to become more common in the past couple of years where its a woman ambot instead of the more traditional male ambot.You have the good sense to see a "business opportunity" where less than a fraction of 1% of the participants make money (read the small print on Amway's literature) is a system set up for failure.And sorry to say what you've suspected will happen - the assholes in her Amway upline will do everything they can to convince her to break up with you. It is obvious that Anna is throwing his/her assumptions here and there and the only way he can evaluate Amway is by calling it names or using foul languages :D I believe you have better things to do with your life other than just sitting here replying everybody for more than a year Anna, let's not reply to me or anybody else and start to enjoy your life. Free next day delivery . Anonymous - you're too kind when you call him a dickhead! How ironic this comment shows up just as I'm getting ready to spend the day down in Tijuana and I don't have to worry going down or coming back cause I'm not illegal..Diamonds are not reading this blog. Amway Diamond Club Destinations for IBOs | Amway Events. I once heard a completely brainwashed over the top Ambot claim "If Jesus were here today, he'd be selling Amway!" so how & how to do business.i am having very much hope in this you call people in Amway stupid but the real idiots are the people that listen to you".
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