Yes both Ad and thamud left dwelling places as opposed to some other Nations mentioned in the Quran but again the reference is generic to many other Nations not mentioned in the book that came to other parts of the world etc. And does the verses before say the Arabs could see the Arabs loft pillars or just saying what they used to do 89:6-8 Thamd, li, al-ijr, Gods She-camel, Arabia and the Arabs by Robert Hoyland, Professor of Late Antique and Early Islamic Middle Eastern History at New York Universitys Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, pg 68. That these are the people of Aad, is hinted by a Nabataean inscription in Wadi Ramm, at a temple dedicated to the goddess Allat. Are you telling us to change our religion from our fathers relgion? The points raised by alfinlandi are very reasonable to counter the points of the article. But the buildings of the Aad are like Lego blocks compared to the Thamud. Thanks for the article and yea I see no problem. It doesnt speak about being touched or untouched. A Warning to the Disbelievers and a Reminder of the Story of `Ad and Thamud. from there I will bring you down, According to the Greek historian, Diodorus Siculus, the Nabateans have a law neither to sow corn nor to plant any fruit-bearing plant, nor to use wine, nor to build a house. The ruined abandoned wells and ruined lofty palaces were present at the time of the Prophet (). After all, camels were and still are pretty common in that part of the world. [24] Whether the poem is genuinely by Umayya or is a post-Islamic creation is a matter of debate. See the video here (arabic): https://youtu.be/yjRjkjQ-VEA, Me however I lean towards that Madain Saleh is not the place for the Quranic Thamud like Dr Thiaeb (linguist of ancient arabic and archeologist) has been repeatedly saying at least since 1995, because among other reasons that Madain Saleh lacks all the marks of Gods wrath, the earth quake levelling Thamud etc. Archaeologists should do their job the way they do and in case of any finding, they can confirm whether it conflicts with the Quran or not; if it does not, then there is nothing wrong to proceed with it further but if it does, then archaeology needs to be further examined however, such an occurrence would never happen since the Quran is from God. They were successors to the People of Noah. A Brief History of ` Ad and Thamud ` Ad is the name of a person who is in the fifth generation after Sayyidna Nuh ( ) and is among the progeny of his son Sam. Abdullah ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, reported: . In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. I have yet to find a shred of evidence of a dead body that was placed in any of the recesses in the walls. 'Aad and Thamud are two of several communities described in the Quran as recipients of God's chosen prophets - and being utterly destroyed for rejecting them. Several other inscriptions bearing the namesAad and Iram have been discovered in Jordan. Think over this in detail. Thats all the Thamud had to do. The Christians are claiming that the Qurans statement about Thamud carving structures in the hills and mountains is demonstrably false as the structures are built not by the Thamud but by the Nabateans, who came much later. Although the Thamud probably originated in southern Arabia, a large group apparently moved northward at an early date, traditionally settling on the slopes of Mount Athlab. Take your time and let it sink in: 1. One may argue that they existed until 106 CE, i.e. The Prophet ordered that the drinking water be split and the flour given to the camels, and he ordered them to drink the water from the well to which the she-camel (of Salih) had come. In light of these points, in my opinion the only reasonable conclusion is one of the following: 1) That the dwellings of Thamud were destroyed some time between The Expedition of Tabuk and today. Ala-Maududi. Having similar names doesnt mean much It is not a revealed book any more and hence, we are not bound to believe in a few thousand year old civilization our scriptures do not mention any such thing. The Edomites can also be a separate nation and through the passage time they shared history, tradition, and custom with the remnants of the Thamud. Witch of these sound more like what the verse is meaning, 5. Of course, only Allah knows the truth. 6. After the destruction of the Ad, the tribe of Thamud succeeded them in power and glory. Honestly I dont understand the confusion at and all of it has been dealt with above. They felt that their habitations would, somehow, secure them from destruction. They also earned income by transporting goods and people in caravans pulled by domesticated camels across the desert. The Story of The Aad And The Thamud Nation_ Qur'an __ | _ Dua for Relief Distress, Laziness, Debts : Suhih Muslim_ Book of General Behaviour_ Kitab al Suhih Muslim_ The Book of Destiny (KITAB-UL-QADR) Chapter___ Raising Index Finger in Tashahhud. Do you think that there inside of there buildings had to of caved in She states that all we have are A few papyri, which are mainly private contracts, and thousands of graffiti scattered on the rocks, 90% of which contain only the name of the individual who wrote it, his fathers name, and a formulaic greeting. Thus, if the Quran is in error about the identities of whoever carved out the structures in Madian Salehor wherever else the Thamud livedthe Bible is also in error when it claims a pre-Nabatean people carved out structures in the mountains of Edom. They did worship Allah, which Ill prove soon. This implies that the carvings in Madain Saleh (which in fact date to the first century CE) are not from the Thamudians, but rather their successors many centuries later in the same area. And it is We who were the inheritors. Routledge. They were craftsmen. Yet as we have seen, the Quran does not claim any of these specific sites belong to the ancient tribe of Thamud per se. Perhaps they couldnt understand the significance of receiving a camel. well) who killed their Prophet AS and hung him inside a well. Salam. Is their carved construction still there today? Otherwise, it could be also the Lihyanites, who disappeared some time before Isa (as), they also had some kind of rock art. Arabization and Islamization of Syria began in the 7th century, and it took several centuries for Islam, the Arab identity, and language to spread;[19] the Arabs of the caliphate did not attempt to spread their language or religion in the early periods of the conquest, and formed an isolated aristocracy. Unfortunately, both nations rejected their prophets. declares the LORD. you who say to yourself, Also there were no prophets between Isa AS and Muhammad SAW which is another issue to clarify. Thus, at the end, the people of al-Hijr are mentioned. The pagan Arabs were acquainted with their existence but nothing more is known about them. Nigel Groom said that Sargon II recorded his subjugations of the tribe of Tamud in 715 BCE, that Agatharchides refers to the land of the Thamoudenian Arabs, Diodorus Sicilus refers to the Thamudeni, Pliny speaks of the Tamudaei, Ptolemy mentioned the Thamudiatea and also the Thamydeni and a Nabatean inscription dated to 166-169 CE refers to the nation or federation of the Thamudeans.[3][4]. In other words either the evidence no longer exists (no problem) or Thamudic dwellings in North West Arabia are yet to be discovered. the nation of Shuayb (as) is mentioned (78-79). [2] The Thamud are not specially connected to the Thamudic scripts, an aggregate term for understudied writing systems of Ancient Arabia. And perhaps, over the generations, these people developed their own magnificent society with its own special hallmarks and characteristics. Even if the prophet saw these exact structures which are visible today and we can, hypothetically, prove beyond a shadow of doubt that no one ever lived in them, and he took them to be the dwellings of the Thamud, that isnt a major problem. Allah knows best if that really happened (this event is not mentioned in the Quran or Sunnah.). The Middle verse in chapter (11) of the New Testament says:" He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." The Middle verse in chapter (11) of the . The Thamud (Arabic: , romanized:amd) were an ancient Arabian tribe or tribal confederation[1] that occupied the northwestern Arabian peninsula between the late-eighth century BCE, when they are attested in Assyrian sources, and the fifth century CE, when they served as Roman auxiliaries. Since I dont have my own blog currently, I will post it here, in case it helps anyone. However, while I agree that these two groups are certainly predecessors to modern Arabs, Im not convinced that Hud, Salih, Shuayb, and Ismail were actually Arabs.. Whereas the people who did cravings in al-Hijr were Nabateans. Thus, the possibility exists that the Edomites copied the mountainous dwellings of the Thamud, just as the Nabateans may have copiedor took over the architectural style of the Edomites or the Thamud and added their own flavor. The means of God's destruction of Thamud include a thunderbolt, a storm, a shout, and an earthquake. Omissions? Being Dutiful to Parents: Islamic knowledge, The Door to Eternal Paradise: Islamic knowledge. After several centuries of independent existence, it was finally incorporated into the Roman empire in 106 AD. A little later, Pliny, the Elder (d. 79 AD), a Roman historian, while writing hisNatural History,mentions theThamudaei5 a people dominant in Hegra, adjoining the Nabataeans. Unfortunately, both nations rejected their prophets. Replying by always staying what is the problem or what is the issue seems to have a rebuking or shaming tone that appears very harsh to the questioner. Nothing but solid rock underlies the rest of the facades. Sargon II (d. 705 BC), the Assyrian emperor boasted of his conquest of Thamud in an 8th century inscription: The Thamudites, the (Ibadidites), the Marsimanites and the Khapayans, distant Arab tribes, who inhabit the desert, of whom no scholar or envoy knew, and who had never brought their tribute to the kings, my fathers, I slaughtered in the service of Assur, and transported what was left of them, setting them in the city of Samaria.. But given the possibility that these ruins could have once been created, either completely or partially, by the Thamud and taken later by the Edomites in Petra and then the Nabateans, who inscribed graffiti on themtheir inscriptions are exactly thator even carved out recesses inside of them, there isnt an unsurmountable problem. Although, implausible, but not impossible. This bears enough similarity to the description of the Thamd dwellings in theQurn to induce certain authors to claim that they are the houses of the Thamd. The calamity must have been fairly extensive in area and intense in the terror it inspired for it is described as a single mighty blast, the sort of terror inspiring noise which accompanies all big earthquakes.. The wordings themselves state so and all the tafaseer also state this. Does 22:45 say thamud castles and palaces are empty in the present tense with the well or is this verse talking about something else, 13. 2. Marcus Aurelius Anthoninus and Lucius Aurelius Verus, who are the conquerors of the Armenians. Trying to make sense of this mad, mad world, And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], Worship Allah and avoid Taghut. And among them were those whom Allah guided, and among them were those upon whom error was [deservedly] decreed. They may have even intermingled to the point of losing any distinction along ethnic lines as there is no good reason or evidence to preclude the idea that the Thamud also ventured and lived in Petra and the surrounding areas. As regarding to the Ahadith from Ibn Umar (as), they seem to be a interpretation of him itself, the prophet (as) says nothing about them. Most of the monuments and inscriptions of the archaeological site of Al-Hijr date from the 1st century BCE and the 1st century CE. This generally means that despite very weak appearance now they one were very well established from the remanats. They are the idumeans( Edomites), Prophet Abraham pbuh was a Chaldean who had, People of uz autocorrect sucks sometimes, The quran pretty unambiguously says that the people of Nuh were a globalised civilization, so your timing seems a bit off, Your email address will not be published. Its almost impossible to know for certain that the many tombs with Nabatean inscriptions are indeed constructed by them, especially when we know that only 15% of the area in Petra has been excavated and examined. Both groups of people were located on the Arabian Peninsula. Suhih Bukhari_ Book of _ Virues of Al-Quran : THE FIRST PILLAR OF ISLAM: THE MUSLIM PROFESSION O _ ( Istighfar & Tawbah Authentic Dua & Dhikr: What Is the Status of Women in Islam? They are of Arab origin, but now of mixed blood mostly with Nilo-Saharans and Nubians. Or there fallen down relics were better than yours in the past but not better now. But before we get to that, lets analyze their responses. The Qu'ran (89: 6-13) refers to the 'Ad people; the unique high peaks of Iram, and the Thamud who carved the rocks there, and has been interpreted as an account of how 'Allah dealt harshly with the people of 'Ad who were corrupted by wealth and the delights of the flesh. Suhih Muslim _ The Book of Prayers (Kitab Al-Salat || Html Code Widget || Blogger Website Blog || At _ The story of cow. [10], Arab Islamic sources state that the Thamud were an early Arab tribe that had gone extinct in ancient days. There was a great influx of Arab tribes into Khuzestan from the 16th to the 19th century, including the migration of the Banu Ka'b and Banu Lam from the Arabian desert. There is no good reason to suggest that these tombs never served as a place of dwelling, as they are large enough to do so. where they used to live. After the destruction of Ad, Thamud succeeded them in power and grandeur. Or there fallen down relics are still better than you houses now 3. or there fallen down relics show they are/were better than you 4. It was He who brought you into being from the earth and made you inhabit it, so ask forgiveness from Him, and turn back to Him: my Lord is near, and ready to answer." ""- . After the given time was over, an earthquake shook the land violently and destroyed the people of Thamud in one cry. Like Petra, much of the ruins are still hidden, we cant make absolute conclusions unless and until we have access to all of the monuments, tombs, structures, which are still hidden. The Nabataeans were nomadic Arabs who moved into territory vacated by the Edomites Semites who settled the region centuries before them. (sorry for all the writting just answer the atharan bit and the 7 things I just wrote Down it doesnt matter about that long paragraph in the middle), Or bonus it just means they were better in building houses on past witch you cant see anymore like effects in 30:50, Any thoughts Bro sorry to keep bothering you with this, Aoa He sent Prophet Hud (AS) to the Aad, and Prophet Salih (AS) to the Thamud. Those people rejected their prophets and did not follow the correct way and Allah did destroy them. ___ : __ >> :____ Fatwa __ . The Nabataean alphabet was adopted by Arabs to the south, and evolved into modern Arabic script around the 4th century. Between the mountains were valleys with gardens and springs of water. The general consensus among 14th-century Arab genealogists is that Arabs are of three kinds: . 85 percent of the region is still untouched, and hidden. Archeologists have put these ruins from the first century BCE and the first century CE. So proceed through the earth and observe how was the end of the deniers. (Quran 16:36). And this advancement led to a stratified society of haves and have nots. I would rather think that the Thamud were more like two or three hundred years after the Aad. [78] Their Messengers came to them with Clear Signs. The shout, which is an extremely loud sound, might have caused the earthquake, according to certain scholars. Five Syriac inscriptions mentioning Arabs have been found at Sumatar Harabesi, one of which dates to the 2nd century CE. Are women deficient in intelligence in Islam? 74], , And certainly did the companions of Thamud deny the messengers. I think some more research is needed to establish where the ruins are that are clearly mentioned in the Tabuk expedition hadith. Nabateans replaced them and built on them/around them, 4. The Ghassanids, Lakhmids and Kindites were the last major migration of pre-Islamic Arabs out of Yemen to the north. Its like me living in a house, then someone tears it down and then builds another house and says Abdullah used to live in that house while the fact is that I did not. I do understand why most Christians are unaware of the fine details interspersed within the ponderous and drawn-out book. (41:13) Your email address will not be published. 3. It is not specific to the 2 Arab tribes. Like some of the tombs have window openings and some of the niches are not much more wide than a hand, which hardly can serve as a resting place for a human body. The Quran and Sunnah do not identify any specific existing ruins as belonging to the first ancient tribe of Thamud, although some Muslim historians and popular folklore have done so. The Aad and Thamud were both located in the northwestern part of modern day Saudi Arabia near the border of Jordan. Even though they built great sculptures, they werent extremely sophistated people. And so, when Our command was fulfilled, by Our mercy We saved li and his fellow believers from the disgrace of that day. The Thamud were scientists. It is possible that Edomites and or Thamud did carve out structures in the region, Nabateans, who came later, were inspired at some point during their history by the structures and proceeded to make a few of their own. al-Hijr, the second most important centre of the Nabataean empire, is the title of the 15th chapter of the Quran. If we say Allah sent Nabateans a Messenger, then we would have to say that Allah sent them a Messenger WAY back (since there were no Prophets or Messengers between Isa and Muhammad (sall Allahu alayhim wa sallam) and only destroy them hundreds of years later. 5. 1995. International Dictionary of Historic Places. The Meaning of La Ilaha Illa Allah (Tawheed): What is Islam? When God permitted the prophet to do this, some of the tribesmen followed Salih, while many powerful leaders continued to oppose him. This came to pass, and Thamud was annihilated. Ruins of Aad and Thamood existed at time of Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam Assalaamu alaykum I was wondering does verse 2938 of the Quran mean that the houses of Aad and Thamud are still standing and that we can see them If Aad were destroyed there is nothing left of Aad apart from their land so their houses have fallen down and if they were not standing in Prophet Muhammads sallallaahu . But as a sign of their wickedness, they killed her. The earliest Arab tribes emerged from Bedouins. JazakAllah, Thats fine I know that is just the way some people talk I talk to the point because Im using a mobile so I have to keep as short as possible my problem with the verse was normally when it says travel the land or as such its talking about nations close and the nations close to the Arabs were ad and thamud so some say that this verse is saying the quran thinks these buildings were built by thamud but we know they were built by the nabtions not thamud but we know the quran is not wrong so how do we explain that verse jazzakkallah because it makes it sound like that is this verse speaking in the present tense or past like tilka arabic and lam arabic jazzakkallah thanks for the help, Its like the same problem with 40:21 40:82 it sounds like thamud and pointing to these tombs etc but we know it cant be so how do we explain this as well jazzakkallah, And 27:52 because people say this sounds like it as well the kawatan arabic means empty so it sounds like it saying these tombs as well but it is mainly 28:58 I have the problem with jazzakkallah. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Quranic tribes of Aad and Thamud a historical perspective. When some one has a keen desire to understand logically or has questions, there is nothing wrong I think. So, basically during the time of the Prophet (), their remains were not on the surface and only some of them were visible. These people incurred the wrath of God and were destroyed. What the visitor sees there today are hewn hills; no mansions remain on the plain. Updates? Heavy contact with Romans resulted in us having a pretty decent record of its territories and people. Also two Saheeh reports are contradicting each other: One the one hand, they are resting at al Hijr, while on the other hand it is said that they didnt rest at all and kept riding away faster from Hijr. Now we come to the archeological matters concerning the Nabateans. Its in their records, that we find out first mention of Thamud. The leftover of Ad were taken and built over by Thamud. I am also writing an text on this that I inshaAllah will put up online. The Tribes of Arabia (Arabic: ) or Arab tribes (Arabic: ) are the ethnic Arab tribes and clans that originated in the Arabian Peninsula. Later still, we find them mentioned by Ptolemy (d. 168AD), in his Geography.6. I believe neither are in error. 4. But unlike most of the others, these two stand out for not having any clear counterpart in the Judeo-Christian tradition a wellspring of Middle Eastern traditions, of which Islam draws in so small measure. 2) The dwellings of Thamud are elsewhere in the valley of Hijr. [21], A hadith tradition preserved in the a al-Bukhr collection narrates that the Islamic prophet Muhammad called Hegra "the land of Thamud" and did not allow his troops to drink from its wells or to use its water, and to never enter its ruins "unless weeping, lest occur to you what happened to them. [24] These tribes advanced in large numbers all the way to Morocco, contributing to a more extensive ethnic, genetic, cultural, and linguistic Arabization in the region. You can find the first onehere), Thamud were before time of the Israelites they were same time as the Assyrians who they mixed with. The Nabateans have not left us with any records, thus inscriptions become the primary dating of these structures. Further confirmation of their service under the Romans, comes via a late 4th (or early 5th century) military document Notitia Dignitatum, which clealy mentions two cavalry units of Thamud, one serving in Egypt and the other in Palestine. If not, then why do we need to find the remains of Thamud? From some understanding, it is derived that Thamud were an ancient Arab people well before Musa (as) and possibly well before Ibrahim (as) and hence the tombs (no dwellings to be seen in the present day ruins) must be very ancient and not recent like the Nabataeans. Perhaps they wandered through the Arabian Peninsula for some time looking for a new home. (29:38) If they turn away, then say, I warn you of a lightning-bolt like the lightning-bolt of Ad and of Thamud. But as well see below, archaeological and literary records place them firmly in Northern Arabia/Jordan, well after the death of Jesus (33 AD). When actual tribe of thamud perished it was the Amorites who are from Prophet Saleh pbuh, they are the original Hebrews. Most scholars interpret this as an earthquake. 63-65. The tribes of 'Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. In the historical and archaeological record, both were contemporaries, but by the time of the Prophet in the 7th century AD, they had become little more than a distant memory, and their ruins, places of myth and legend. Then bring us what you promise us if you are among the truthful.Chapter 7, Verse 70, It is all the same to us if you advise us are not from among the advisors. And 'Ad and Thamud (people)! There is no special connection between these scripts and the tribe of Thamud. [Quran11:6168(Abdel Haleem)], The Islamic exegetical tradition adds detail to the Quran's account. The video (arabic): https://youtu.be/0XIPP6vsDmA. Eph'al instead speculates that the Thamd and other Arab tribes may have made arrangements with Sargon to trade in Samaria, which Assyrian historians embellished as submission. Possible answer: Their messenger lived before or even during the time of Isa (as), this also the time where this site flourished, but when they denied him, Allah did not destroy them immidiantely. This is the temple that was built by the tribal unit of Thamud, the leaders of their unit, so that it might be established by their hands and be their place of veneration for ever7. So youd then say that the buildings at Madain Salih were indeed originally Thamudic and then after that built upon by other nations? 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