Yes, I'm joking, but honestly, that's part of what I was trying to explain to you earlier with fuck around and find out, kind of. Now I sound like I'm saying some shit here, so I'm just gonna stop. They can see small things that trip killers up. Crestone BF: 00:19:33 When I went and picked her up from Catfish's house on June 28th, after she got raped, she was very mixed up about it. Mama said, "Don't go near that river Don't be hanging around old Catfish John." I'm not trying to be funny, sir, but I am saying that for real, this has ruined my life and now you are attacking me. I'm joking. Payne Lindsey: 00:14:44 But did Ara make it up, too? So I reached back out to Catfish to share the great news. You know how when you over-password things and you can't be the one account to get your damn account so you can't prove you're either one kind of thing. Unknown Man: 00:07:34 You want to talk about your kid. He said that he done something that I would be completely against doing. But when I talked to Catfish, he kept telling me that he couldn't release it. John "Catfish": 00:08:40 I don't give a shit what you're accusing me of, sir. 'Cause if he did, then it's as simple as that. Payne Lindsey: 00:43:38 Do you think [censored] involved with Brian, too? And this hasn't even necessarily ... Hopefully nothing's happened. And there's only six of them in the entire Census Bureau data that was available to me at the time I looked at it. Payne Lindsey: 00:22:14 I'll send it to you. Payne Lindsey: 00:46:49 I mean, that guy is probably what happened to her. John "Catfish": 00:36:36 Okay, this guy that messaged me, the reason I'm asking if he worked with you is he's messaging me saying, "They found the body." There is no justifiable reason, whether she was talking to cops or whether she was stealing from people or whether she was doing anything at all. John "Catfish": 00:30:59 If I thought someone I knew and lived near or whatever said ... First of all, no one has anything on me. You're a good canvasser, you did great going door-to-door with Kirby. Why would I tell you something that I wouldn't tell any of my friends? However, I feel hes doing a piss poor job at that. And if you were gonna frame up an innocent man, using some trick on me like that, while I'm obviously under more mental distress, that's the only reason why I was willing. I've only spoken the facts and the truth. Join Couchsurfing to see Catfish’s full profile. John "Catfish": 00:46:18 That's what I'm talking about, sir. So does that fact that I've been told by official channels not to release her name. Payne Lindsey: 00:38:59 Except for the message you have, to be honest. Up and Vanished community. I'm not blaming it, 'cause what people do is what people do, and what you gotta do is whatever you gotta do. John "Catfish": 00:10:39 If I did, I have no recollect of it. Payne Lindsey: 00:09:24 They all want to know what happened to Kristal ... Payne Lindsey: 00:09:25 ... and you're the last person to see her as we know. She come over like, twice. What I'm saying is we don't do that kind of thing, either. Why would Kristal make that up? What's that? She was trying to tell me that it was really a lot of people over there but she didn't remember and I've never seen her that scared. She was not fat. If you believe me to be innocent, then please do so. John "Catfish": 00:05:53 Oh, well, how nice of you. With a bitcoin request for $75,000? Payne Lindsey: 00:06:33 What happened to Kristal? I blocked his account. John "Catfish": 00:10:01 You don't have server side dates, do you? Turn your recorder off if you want, then. You might want to say it sounds a bit paranoid. , From that Facebook link above I think I found his Instagram ‍♀️ https://instagram.com/zatcathatfish?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=aghy2c88uwaa, https://www.instagram.com/p/nS1NJ-va2A/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=rqehwklmmski the comments ‍♀️. Can't make a case, so finding her is pretty important. It is. Payne Lindsey: 00:52:42 Wouldn't you want to know what people are saying? I mean, people have really offended me in my lifetime. Do you want to cut the check today or do you want to cut this check later, because honestly, you're making some shit up and falsely accusing me of it. She was a friend of ours. Payne Lindsey: 00:25:12 Joseph [censored]. I sound the craziest, probably because I've been hunted like this. It's true that I'm thinking there's not. He lost his computers and has to log into some cloud account, or something like that. That'd be my question. Not no more. John "Catfish": 00:17:53 You're saying they said things that they did not say. The next day, he came back on his bicycle to see the parking lot in which he took her from and the police were there and he drove his bike through the parking lot and he saw her earring on the concrete and he picked it up and put it in his pocket. So yeah, it doesn't really speak well of me to be saying it now when I've been advised by like, four attorneys not to. I wondered the same.. why didnt his "counsel " make him hang the phone up? I don't know, it was kind of heartfelt. John "Catfish": 00:48:12 How's he gonna pay for it? John "Catfish": 00:48:36 I do think he did it at this point. Here's how innocent. Warren a retired tobacco farmer kept building this collection of leprechaun sized houses until he died at the age of 84. Payne Lindsey: 00:25:35 Well, I mean, you have the proof, though, right, with the message from Brian? But there's not a-. She was probably 5'9", 5'10", something like that. What would Katherine Weisinger ... What was it? Clearly hes lyinnnnnnn! Who Was Kristal Reisinger? But I care about my life as well. The bottom line is that all these things can't be true. Payne Lindsey: 00:14:54 They both told me that Kristal told them she was raped at your house on June 28th. Fucking hunted for like, three years, and no one managed two, to break the glass, and three, to miss my ass kind of thing. I want to watch it. John "Catfish": 00:14:50 I don't know either one of them. That's where it begins and ends. We never even kissed. Not to the point of being dumb enough to actually directly cause it intentionally, but even talking with you against my counsel is the dumbest thing I could do. I mean for one thing I-. Payne Lindsey: 00:46:31 What was she like when she left? To be clear, I have no idea who these people are, and there's no connection to me or Up and Vanished, but he found it pretty irritating. That was the week after my birthday. Let's go through what Kristal's friends have told me about this incident. That's why I'm saying, yeah, I'm eating a candy bar on my way out the door but the point is, we know I didn't say that. I do have iTunes. You can't pay for a life back. It doesn't matter." Read More. ""Up and Vanished"" host Payne Lindsey meets with Rodney Ervin, the surrogate father of missing woman Kristal Reisinger. I could only hurt somebody if it was an immediate and direct defense of my life or someone else's and I would still feel guilt and would have done confessed instantly about it if I had. Early life Childhood. Picture of catfish john up and vanished. Payne Lindsey: 00:14:35 Why would she make that up? Payne Lindsey: 00:10:36 Didn't you give Kristal a $10 computer book? That's true. John "Catfish": 00:34:06 That's why the boys don't trust me to talk to you, that kind of thing. Okay. Payne Lindsey: 00:43:34 I asked him about Landon, one of the guys we heard from briefly in episode six. Payne Lindsey: 00:04:27 Hey, this is Payne. You know what, folks? I thought she was a little bit cute. Me. Payne Lindsey: 00:55:24 I mean, I think the Big Cat guy should be questioned, don't you? Payne Lindsey: 00:37:06 Do you believe Brian? And the thing about the money with you is only because I know that my name is not just some name picked out of some kind of random thing, and there's a few different things involved. All I've heard is everyone calling me telling me that, "This guy's accused you of this and that," and stuff. John "Catfish": 00:54:54 Dready Brian, I will have him meet me at a train station if you find that kid. John "Catfish": 00:12:36 Hear me. John "Catfish": 00:05:08 Listen, you understand my frustration isn't that I got some kind of vendetta against you or something like that. I don't even know what month it is. I guarantee that. 131 likes. I have yet to take the time to listen to one word of one podcast. They hear more out of it than I. I am just reading them as most of the time trying to maneuver their way out of tough questions without directly admitting to anything. Hold on. I'm the one who has never come close to ever once being accused of anything like this. John "Catfish": 00:39:01 The reason why they're still sitting on that in my non-legal opinion ... That doesn't mean it's illegal opinion. Say you want to change your ... No, I don't think that part of it has any WITSEC type stuff to do with it, honestly, because they would come up with a more clever name. It's unimaginable to me. So yeah, I'll take it. You saying it is good enough. I can't answer these questions right now. Payne Lindsey: 00:18:09 My first call with Catfish was interesting to say the least, but not exactly productive. He'll meet you somewhere for $200 and a half a gram of black, probably. I had known that he had raped her. Anyways, and that's to the best of my recollect, last time I saw her. You're trying to frame me up for money. John "Catfish": 00:26:21 So problem is, I lost all my computers when I lost my home over this kind of crap. You see that happening with a carpet wrapped up in it? That's amazing. Me too. I can just read it. I need to calm down, have a drink. John "Catfish": 00:45:39 I need you to understand, if you'd be willing to, that it's not my job to prove my innocence, not according to Congress and that kind of thing. There is a tribute band named CATFISH JOHN. Payne Lindsey: 00:50:44 I think she's just sad. A hippie chick. I'm pretty sure it was Katherine. I said, "So why did you do this? Visit us on social media via @upandvanished, or you can visit our website, upandvanished.com, where you can join in on our discussion board. I'm asking you, have you been slandering me on live podcast for money? I will say this on free will here, sure. John "Catfish": 00:17:37 Just you're lying about her telling people that I raped her and stuff like that. John "Catfish": 00:26:03 But all jokes aside. John "Catfish": 00:42:10 I am missing four Mac Pros from my house. I thought I was gonna have to climb back in the system to get the files because all my computers were stolen and stuff. When you gotta hide your keys when you're drunk at night, basically. Like I said, for the thing Brian said-. John "Catfish": 00:15:08 Also, you know what, sir? Not you personally. It's like this, but I hella care. Payne Lindsey: 00:08:36 Well, I'm not accusing you of anything. Look, if she went missing five times before and we found her at Dillard's every time then, maybe we should check Bealles. Her daughter, Rodney, Amy. I don't know every way a person can leave the earth, they could die or whatever. I do not want to spend the rest of my year in court any more than I want to spend the rest of my year in jail. The point is, just imagine, first three years coming out of a town like that and everyone you talk with has done heard something that someone heard about someone they know. A lot of missing people go missing. Questioning somebody that they don't know a real name for that has a similarity to mine is not going to be taken kindly by me, for that to be taken seriously. Even with John Keenan out of town, it seems there are 3+ complicit parties who would know more of the actual end of Kristal's life. John "Catfish": 00:14:44 I don't know Ara. You can accuse people of a lot of things, but I want to know is, what has been said on that podcast that's got my friends so up in arms about this, figuratively speaking. Okay, over a thousand people have done Checkmate background checks on me alone in the past month. John "Catfish": 00:18:03 And I did the Roswell incident with a fucking 16 gauge in 1920. Specifically a Grateful Dead tribute band? I want you to tell me what you know or what you don't know or how you feel about all this. John "Catfish": 00:08:57 I'm not answering your questions like that, sir. John "Catfish": 00:58:23 If you find some evidence that says I done it, you air it and whatever you want to do because there is none of it. I decided to throw it all away for nothing, basically. And why did he think he could get money from him? John "Catfish": 00:50:46 Right, but people keep coming at me with the same canvas of basically why would he do that? View Full Profile; Overview 0 references Fluent in English 33, Male; Member since 2016 Lightworker This not that that not this and LOVE From grateful dead shows Profile 70% complete About Me. [crosstalk]. Our theme song is Ophelia performed by Ezza Rose. Payne Lindsey: 00:12:10 You think she left on her own? Thank you. I mean, seriously? She was a bit crazy, like all of them people say are, you know? I'd like to know how much some files would be worth to you. He clubbed her over the head with a tire iron, put her in the car, took her out into the woods, and killed her. Payne Lindsey: 00:20:52 Back to my call with Catfish. But that-. And so he's telling detectives this just before they put him to death. That's three different people. What I was saying is we do know this much. I said, "Hey listen. It was like the T-ball or the kindergarten of exploring wifi networks. 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